Immigration Crisis: Will Obama's Plan Work?

July 1st, 2010   (214 views )

President Barack Obama on Thursday blamed immigration policy gridlock on "political posturing and special interest wrangling."
In a speech Thursday, Obama took Republicans to task, in particular 11 GOP senators who supported recent efforts to improve the immigration system. He did not name any in particular, but told his largely supportive audience at American University that those lawmakers had succumbed to the "pressures of partisanship and election-year politics."
Seeking to rally new momentum to an issue that many advocates had hoped would be completed by this point, Obama laid out his rationale for a comprehensive approach to fixing what he and others, Republicans included, say is a broken immigration system.
He said the problem cannot be solved "only with fences and border patrols" but said the government should be held accountable for its responsibility to secure the border. Obama also said businesses should face consequences for knowingly employing illegal immigrants and that those who enter the country illegally should own up to their actions before they can begin the process of becoming citizens.
"The question now is whether we will have the courage and the political will to pass a bill through Congress, to finally get it done," the president said. "I'm ready to move forward, the majority of Democrats are ready to move forward and I believe the
majority of Americans are ready to move forward. But the fact is that without bipartisan support, as we had just a few years ago, we cannot solve this problem."
"Reform that brings accountability to our immigration system cannot pass without Republican votes," he said. "That is the political and mathematical reality."

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Comment from: Georgina [Visitor]
President Obama's statement puts the issue as I see it into a clear perspective. Will the plan work? Given the recent history when it comes to bipartisan support, I am sure every force possible will rally against it. However, I am still hopeful that a bill will make it through Congress.
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Comment from: mags [Visitor] Email
This President is clueless.
PermalinkPermalink 07/01/10 @ 13:31
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
So what exactly is the "Obama immigration plan." Amnesty?
PermalinkPermalink 07/01/10 @ 15:54
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
Re: votes.
Cbama has dem cotrol of the house and needs only one repug/independant to pass in the senate.

Obama is LAME!
PermalinkPermalink 07/01/10 @ 15:59
Comment from: William [Visitor] Email
No further Congressional action is required to secure the borders. There seems to be general agreement that the first step in "reform" is to secure the borders.

That said, smuggling at borders is the inevitable result of barriers to trade. We do not have smuggling on the Canadian border because we allow the free flow of goods and services. We have smuggling of labor across the Mexican border because we resist the flow of the only tradable commodity that the Mexicans have a surplus of, labor.

Wars, not simply smuggling, we have millions of people who are impoverished by that border. "Securing" it leads to violence.
PermalinkPermalink 07/01/10 @ 16:36
Comment from: Bernardo Alves [Visitor] Email
I ame here with a Visa along with my parents 13 years ago, now i am 18 years old with an expired Visa. Ive been living like a normal person all my life, howerever not having citizenship makes life very complicated. I think Obama should cut off all help to illegals, therefore they will simply go back once they see there is nothing else here for them. i know this first hand because here in Bridgeport, CT the brasilian population is decreasing and they are all going back becaus ethey see so much action going on with Arizona and are going back scared. Cut Off ALL FUNDS TO IMMIGRANTS, deny them the right to live as citizens. They will have no choice but to return home, saving the US much money on deportation. I have been going after citizenship since 16, and cant because my parents left me here in the US and wen t back to Brasil. What ddo i do? I am here alone. I dont want to be like them. i did not choose to be here, but since ive been living here for so long as a citizen, working and getting my education, why is it impossible to legalize myself and continue living this life which i myself was too young to choose wether or not to live here.
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Comment from: DOUG [Visitor] Email
and that those who enter the country illegally should own up to their actions before they can begin the process of becoming citizens.

Is this jackass and the rest of the WORTHLESS democrats for real???
PermalinkPermalink 07/01/10 @ 21:45
Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
In my opinion, this president is a complete fraud. Everything he does seems to go against the average American citizen.

He takes a the truth and says "The American people want immigration reform", and just like he did with healthcare reform, he replaces it with HIS plan and then tries to sell it like we want HIS plan. We don't want HIS plan, we want the Americans peoples plan. Enforce our existing laws!

He says Arizona law is devisive but it is the SAME as the federal law. He refuses to take any action to protect American citizens. Wow, how much better is Governor Brewer then Obama? She makes a decision, she takes action to protect her state and sticks by it. She should be President, she is a real leader.
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Comment from: robert [Visitor] Email
Arizona Police Already Feeling Pressure From New Immigration Law
JONATHAN J. COOPER | 07/ 1/10 08:01 PM |

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/01/arizona-police-immigration-law_n_633108.html
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Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
"Arizona Police Already Feeling Pressure From New Immigration Law."

Yes Robert it is going to be hard on the police and Arizona. It would not be if the federal government controlled the border and enforced our laws. Of course this is something that should have been done long ago.

However, what Obama is doing is worse then nothing. He is going out of his way to stop Americans from trying to defend themselves, when he clearly refuses to enforce our laws himself.

Look at every decision. It took 72 days to get a tanker and some extra help in the Gulf. He wants to point blame, whether it be Bush, BP, Arizona, the Cambridge police and so on but he never takes action to prevent or resolve the issue. IMO he is not a leader more like a spokesman or a negotiator at best.
PermalinkPermalink 07/02/10 @ 12:00
Comment from: Gail [Visitor] Email
This is NOT ELLIS ISLAND IMMIGRATION 1900! AND, THIS IS NOT JUST OBAMA'S DEBACLE. THIS IS MELTING-POT IMMIGRATION IN EACH AND EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
PermalinkPermalink 07/02/10 @ 14:09
Comment from: John--- [Visitor] Email
IS BLOOMBERG TALKING OUT OF TWO SIDES OF HIS FACE WHEN ADDRESSING ARIZONA'S IMMIGRATION LAW? -You Betcha'

Paterson Urged to Veto Limit on Stop-and-Frisk List
By AL BAKER
Published: July 2, 2010

To police officials, a computer database full of the names and addresses of people questioned by officers in millions of street stops in New York City is a core tool in their fight to keep reducing crime.

The officials argue that the files — which include information about people never actually arrested or charged — have fed detectives essential clues for making arrests, particularly in some high-profile bias and hate crimes.

But to an increasing array of lawmakers, the database represents an unconstitutional inventory of mostly young blacks and Hispanics, many of whom, although they are determined to have done nothing wrong, have their names and addresses in the hands of a powerful law enforcement agency. There have been roughly three million street stops in New York since 2004, and by one count, 9 in 10 of the people stopped by the police were not accused of any crime or violation.

Now the debate has shifted to whether Gov. David A. Paterson should sign or veto a legislative remedy.

The State Senate and the Assembly passed a bill that would prohibit the police from saving the personal data of people who are stopped but not arrested or fined.

The bill has yet to land on the governor’s desk, but one sponsor, Senator Eric L. Adams, a Brooklyn Democrat, said that in a conversation on Wednesday night, Mr. Paterson “stated to me he sees no problem with getting this bill signed into law.”

Earlier Wednesday, when asked if he would sign the bill, Mr. Paterson said he would have to read it first. But he gave some hint of where he stood, saying, “I don’t see why you have a database on people who have not been found to do anything wrong, but just how far the bill goes is something I’ll take a look at.”

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg “will urge the governor to veto the bill,” a spokesman, Jason Post, said. By limiting the information that the Police Department “can record, electronically, in stop and frisks, the ability of police to solve subsequent crimes will be limited,” Mr. Post said.
OH REALLY, SO HOW CAN HE PROCLAIM TO BE AGAINST THE ARIZONA LAW?

Senator Martin J. Golden, a Republican from Brooklyn who is a retired city police officer, said, “I think it’s a disgrace this legislation passed, and I hope the governor vetoes it.” Stripping officers of their ability to log the names of those stopped, he said, is “like handcuffing the police.”

*****Mr. Adams said the bill’s backers’ quarrel was not with the stop-and-frisk practice itself, which he called a “great crime-fighting tool,” but with "the policy of indefinitely keeping the names of innocent people", which he called “unacceptable, not only in New York, but in America.” For that reason, said Mr. Adams, a retired New York City police captain, “we have abused the tool.” BRAVO!!!

The police, in executing their stop-and-frisk strategy, are supposed to question people who they have a reasonable belief might have committed or are about to commit a crime. *****But in hundreds of thousands of instances, according to Police Department data, officers have stopped people on the street without citing specific reasons.

In the run-up to the bill’s passage, Bloomberg administration officials, representing the Police Department, and lawmakers could not reach a compromise, several people said.

The mayor’s “team in Albany was in conversations with the bill’s sponsors, but couldn’t come to any agreement,” Mr. Post said on Thursday. Mr. Adams said the city had rebuffed a suggestion to allow the police to keep the names of people stopped by officers for six months.

In the end, Mr. Adams said there was no option but to bring the measure to the floor. A concerted fight by Mr. Bloomberg’s representatives and the Police Department to beat it back failed, Mr. Golden said.

The Senate passed the bill on June 23, by a vote of 32 to 29, and the Assembly approved it six days later, by a vote of 85 to 55.

*****In May, the New York Civil Liberties Union sued the Police Department and its commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, on behalf of a smaller group of people whose names are in the police database: those who were either issued a violation or arrested in street stops but later cleared of criminal charges or fined for a noncriminal violation.

Donna Lieberman, the civil liberties group’s executive director, said the police practice of keeping names was tantamount to a “regime of ‘round up the usual suspects.’ ”

Commissioner Kelly, speaking after a promotion ceremony at Police Headquarters on Friday, warned that if the governor signed the measure, the public would suffer.

“I think it’s a huge mistake,” Mr. Kelly said. “I think the public will be the loser for this. It appears that certain politicians think that crime has gone low enough and we need it to go back up. It makes no sense.”

Mr. Kelly repeated his belief in the value of the database as an investigative tool and said that the department was open to the notion of keeping names for a set period before eliminating them — which he said the department had proposed.

“We’ll see what happens,” Mr. Kelly said. “But I think the loser ultimately will be the public, because it impinges on the Police Department’s ability to do investigations and to solve crimes.”
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"the policy of indefinitely keeping the names of innocent people", which he called “unacceptable, not only in New York, but in America.”

"the policy of indefinitely keeping the names of innocent people", which he called “unacceptable, not only in New York, but in America.”

FINALLY!!! NOTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID, UNLESS MR BLOOMBERG WANTS TO BE KNOWN AS UNAMERICAN AND A VIOLATOR OF CITIZENS HUMAN RIGHTS HIMSELF.
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